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[Frank]

Yeah, it's not looking good for the Scum at this point. If brewha can survive toMorrow, he might be able to make things interesting, but I doubt he could pull off a win.

[naf1138]

There is too much heat on him, and between TL and AH town shouldn't lose the last of the confirmeds for a while. Even if brewha goes after one of the docs it will still take him at least 4 Nights to get rid of them all and that is too long. It might be impossible for him to win at this point.

[naf1138]

Players Brewha must kill before lylo to have a reasonable chance of winning.
Total Lost
AH
Hockey Monkey
Pede

Brewha

Players who brewha must get lynched rather than Night Kill

Rapier42
special ed
Zeriel
Nanook of the North Shore
Natlaw
amrussell

Let's say brewha picks the path that comes closest to guaranteeing him victory and kills AH toNight. And town mislynches for the rest of the game.


Tomorrow starts with 3 confirmed
AH
Hockey Monkey
Pede

brewha

They lynch special ed
Mislynches
Rapier42
Zeriel
Nanook of the North Shore
Natlaw
amrussell

Then brewha gets lucky and takes out TL
Hockey Monkey
Pede

brewha

and town lynches Rapier

Mislynches
Zeriel
Nanook of the North Shore
Natlaw
amrussell

Then brewha kills pede

Confirmed HM

vs

brewha

Zeriel
Nanook
Natlaw
amrussell


So it's possible for brewha to pull out a win if he kills AH tonight and TL tomorrow. In fact he gets to miss 2 kills before he can not win the game anymore.

I wonder if he will manage to not get lynced before he gets to that point.

[cometothedarkside]

I figured brewha would get flushed out prior to Millit, so I am not thinking brewha's chances of miraculous acrobatics are too good. *shrug*

[naf1138]

You know, it's unlikely but, if brewha falls for that "There is one last mason in the unconfirmed pool" gambit that pede just pulled, I think it will make up for Pede's weak game so far.

[cometothedarkside]

I agree. This is well-played by pede, and he has redeemed himself in my eyes. When there are so many townies that only a single scum is likely, the vanillas should consider sacrificing themselves on a claim to draw the scum kill away from the power roles. Well played for pede.

[Frank]

Jan 31, 2009 23:50:31 GMT -5 cometothedarkside said:

I agree. This is well-played by pede, and he has redeemed himself in my eyes. When there are so many townies that only a single scum is likely, the vanillas should consider sacrificing themselves on a claim to draw the scum kill away from the power roles. Well played for pede.

But as always, my philosophical disagreement with this point remains. How, exactly, would the Scum "fall for" pedescribe's claim? They already figure there's a fourth mason, but they're not going swimming in the confirmed pool to look for him or her because they know they can't. Eliminating the half-dead can't really hurt the Scum much even if it's true.

Now, at some point, it may or may not come to light that pedescribe has lied repeatedly about his own role name, his own powers, and now the existence of a fourth mason with powers that don't exist. These are substantive lies, and the Town is basing its strategic approach to the endgame on them. Suppose it does come to light. In light of the Evil Mason / Separate Mason Win Condition situations we've seen in past games, the Town would surely be tempted to take a Mason apart and see what's inside, and even one such experiment could throw the game over to brewha if he's careful and clever.

[Frank]

<redacted, because apparently the Scum are going to fall for this. Good grief.>

[naf1138]

I don't like that pede lied about anything other than the existance of a fourth mason. I do think it's silly that brewha is going to kill in the unconfirmed pool though. That's a pointless and painful exercise.

So now he only gets one more chance to kill an unconfirmed. Do you think you should let him know that? (After this kill obviously.)

[catinasuit]

At this point, brewha's best chance is to claim a deadite killing ability and carry it out, saying that it only kicks in if he is going to be lynched etc. etc.

Then get the town to lynch him, sacrifice the deadites and stop the lynch.

Look at me, I'm town.

Problem is that they will ask him why he didn't get rid of some earlier on.

BTW Isn't Natlaw supposed to be a 1/2 deadite??

[cometothedarkside]

I love how people are assuming that I'm the one that storyteller was commenting on and that surely I was mis-playing my role. Aside from the late orders, I think I played a solid game while I was in it.

Perfect knowledge provides my vindication. Neener neener

[naf1138]

You did play a solid game.

Town has had three players that hurt them:

Hawk
Pede
Total Lost

Pede an TL seem to have gained back some ground. Hawk unfortunatly died befroe he could.

[cometothedarkside]

So close to sealing the deal, depending on how brewha plays his available tricks. I don't know how much sustained pressure they're capable of subjecting him too, and once people have talked themselves out of their previously held suspicions, they may not get them back.

[naf1138]

I don't know if it will come to that. It looks like they have decided to lynch brewha toDay regardless of what happens.

[naf1138]

Zeriel:

Wait! you're nailed, Rapier.

SpEd's PM only has the ---------------- because he was replied to by storyteller after a PM problem.

Mine lacks it. But you missed that Nanook's ALSO lacks it.

You're busted, bub.

unvote Brewha
vote Rapier42

:smack: