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Howdy
Jun 1, 2010 14:30:29 GMT -5
Post by normalphase on Jun 1, 2010 14:30:29 GMT -5
Argh, why do things like this come up when I have NO TIME? But yeah, agree. Guiri say anything in the other forum as regards his bait-setting with Moley?
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Howdy
Jun 2, 2010 7:36:15 GMT -5
Post by normalphase on Jun 2, 2010 7:36:15 GMT -5
Ay-yi-yi this is getting complicated. Anybody home? We need to talk.
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Howdy
Jun 2, 2010 7:56:56 GMT -5
Post by normalphase on Jun 2, 2010 7:56:56 GMT -5
The "redirect" that I did on Story and SisC is public knowledge (and BillMc has the motivations almost exactly correct, incidentally). Also, Guiri and Cookies will presumably try to tie a leash to Story today or tonight on the basis of him being a suspect as HoC. A few options:
-- Story claims the redirect power himself (limited, naturally); we pull sinjin in here to protect him instead of me, so there is no repeat if Pleo or someone else tries again; I use the bus driver power on Ed in case he's made himself too much of a target for someone who can kill him. Issues with this -- Story is no longer protected from investigation. Also, if Cookies disbelieves the reveal and investigates Story's clans anyway (and she may well do so), Story's claim is contradicted. Cookies and Guiri become aware that someone they can't account for is protecting HoC-Story, someone they will see as a rival for Story's loyalty (a winning rival, at that), and will have zero incentive to keep him alive. This would be BAD.
Summary thought: STORYTELLER do not claim that what happened to SisC was your own doing unless we have ourselves "leashed" Guiri and Cookies first.
Second option: Get through today somehow, hope we all survive the wild card of Mahaloth plus peeker (drag peeker in here now, possibly?), and let Cookies do her investigation. Negotiate with them afterward. Problems: the "redirect" is completely unaccounted for, and I'm as positive as I can possibly be that Guiri will at some point question whether someone has a prior claim on Story's loyalty.
Third option: Like #2, but reveal most of the truth of the Guiri and Cookies, up to and including my own (but perhaps not Ed's) prior loyalty to Storyteller, and that I protected him last night. Problem: it will require that I fess up to a number of lies, and will likely result in a lack of trust between them and me that could eventually prove fatal. We could alleviate some of that risk by abandoning the peeker and/or sinjin plans and throwing all our information and loyalty to those two, but that would have its own problems, obviously.
Need input.
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Howdy
Jun 2, 2010 10:55:22 GMT -5
Post by normalphase on Jun 2, 2010 10:55:22 GMT -5
On another topic, check out Pinkies in post 90; he seems quite interested that Drain implied the game could have multiple roleblockers.
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Howdy
Jun 2, 2010 11:59:09 GMT -5
Post by special on Jun 2, 2010 11:59:09 GMT -5
in Option 1.
Sinjin has protection and blocking powers. I really want her in here.
Peeker's power and guiri's power are both potentially useful. I don't trust peeker though. And guiri might not react too well to finding out he was decieved based on the reaction he had when he found out I was working against his wishes before he was working with me.
Cookie's power is helpful to story more than the rest of us.
Have you put any thought into Cookies being a Chain? She didn't declare a primary, and her power closely resembles a part of story's power #4\
Here's my 4th option Invite sinjin inhere to protect story. Normal and I try to appease Cookies and guiri in private, telling them that we're working on leashing story. We wait for one of the 5 of us to die and then form the clan.
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Howdy
Jun 2, 2010 12:41:57 GMT -5
Post by normalphase on Jun 2, 2010 12:41:57 GMT -5
No, Cookies is definitely incompatible with Chains abilities. (It's a day power, for starters.) It's remotely possible she could fake it, but I don't think so. Would be too easy to get tripped up.
As I've stated above, my main concern with trying to play both sides (sinjin/(peeker) AND cookies/guiri) is the "redirect" on Story. If he's ever revealed as Chains to Guiri and Cookies without accounting for that "redirect", then Guiri at least is going to start wondering who he has protecting him, and whether that person has more of Storyteller's loyalty than "we" do.
Speaking of that redirect, though, have you SEEN what SisC posted? "your first order"? That's vote-buying that can be changed on the fly -- strong ablity.
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Howdy
Jun 3, 2010 10:33:15 GMT -5
Post by normalphase on Jun 3, 2010 10:33:15 GMT -5
Mahaloth may be going after *Story*, and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it but hint to peeker it would not be in his interests for Story to die.
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Howdy
Jun 3, 2010 15:38:32 GMT -5
Post by normalphase on Jun 3, 2010 15:38:32 GMT -5
Peeker says that *he* is the Daykiller, not Mahaloth; that they switched roles for giggles. He implies he could be going after either Ed or Story. This sucks.
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Howdy
Jun 3, 2010 16:17:53 GMT -5
Post by normalphase on Jun 3, 2010 16:17:53 GMT -5
Well, this is no doubt a completely stupid move, and if Ed isn't around to change orders or peeker hasn't targeted anyone important in the first place, also a futile one, but I've as much as told peeker that the three of us intend to take him with us to the end. I didn't know what else to say.
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Howdy
Jun 3, 2010 16:51:09 GMT -5
Post by special on Jun 3, 2010 16:51:09 GMT -5
Invite him in here.
I can give him the chance to change his plan.
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Howdy
Jun 3, 2010 16:55:20 GMT -5
Post by special on Jun 3, 2010 16:55:20 GMT -5
I've put out the call for a Day roleblock. Let's see if my connections pay off.
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Howdy
Jun 3, 2010 19:33:12 GMT -5
Post by special on Jun 3, 2010 19:33:12 GMT -5
strange turn of events.
Blockey has claimed a Night Redirection power, but he directs a player's actions where he wants not as a bus driver.
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Howdy
Jun 3, 2010 19:43:43 GMT -5
Post by special on Jun 3, 2010 19:43:43 GMT -5
Also, Blockey claims to be pretty sure who a Night Killer is, and thusly, has control over a Night Kill.
Right now, he's considering peeker and Mahaloth
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Howdy
Jun 3, 2010 20:10:10 GMT -5
Post by special on Jun 3, 2010 20:10:10 GMT -5
what I'm thinking is telling my buddy the likely nk to aim for mahaloth and I'll redirect to peeker. Thoughts?
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Howdy
Jun 4, 2010 0:48:29 GMT -5
Post by Frank on Jun 4, 2010 0:48:29 GMT -5
All - peeker essentially told me that he was going to kill me, or maybe Ed, unless I gave him some reason to trust me. Thinking quickly, and praying it wouldn't screw us all, I spilled (most of) my guts. I didn't identify either of you, though apparently that's academic.
Peeker didn't kill me, nor did he redirect anyone to kill me (obviously). He told me that he was "losing trust in the Daykiller," and explicitly identified the "Daykiller" as a "she." What does this mean? Could mean that peeker is the MoDD, and figures he can keep me alive long enough to benefit from me.
Should I target peeker? I could investigate him. Or I could shoot blindly into the unknown pool, trying to kill another Chain; the list of potential Chains keeps getting shorter the more we learn. Or I could protect normal again, or Ed. As I have been away from the game, more or less, this week, I am open to any guidance on the best possible use of my power(s).
More later. By the way, blockey has approached me to Clan with him and Total. I think I will join them, but stall until Dawn.
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