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Post by Pleonast on Feb 14, 2013 11:58:35 GMT -5
As an aside, were you deliberately trying to get yourself Night-killed? That might even be the optimal move for a compulsory vig. It was a double-bluff. Ideally, scum would've thought I was bluffing and not night-killed. I then would have claimed vanilla (because my claim was vague enough to truthfully support any specific claim) and hopefully avoided Night attention for a while. The fact that I started out as a compulsory vigilante meant that my penalty if scum guessed well was minimal. |
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Post by trepamayfield on Feb 15, 2013 15:42:39 GMT -5
I have to say--I'm shocked. Up until Stan's bad role claim, I was expecting him to flip town, and for Astral to be the (now-as-good-as-outed) cop. I had a whole analysis prepared about risk/reward and how it was far more worth it for the scum than the town, etc. etc.
No offense to the real cop, but I do think it wasn't perfect play for him/her to write that message on that day.
Still haven't read spoilers yet.
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Post by Pleonast on Feb 15, 2013 15:50:28 GMT -5
I am baffled why the investigator didn't sign the message like I signed mine. There's really no reason not to, unless they really needed that last word for the payload.
On the other hand, the unclarity of the message means that some scum might have been tempted to defend the outed scum, so just maybe it was worth it.
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Post by chronos on Feb 17, 2013 18:23:35 GMT -5
On another note, I didn't see any fake PMs provided over on the Scum boards-- Did stanislaus write that himself? Right up until the mistake on the last line, it looks like he did a pretty good job of mimicking Storyteller's style.
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Post by Pleonast on Feb 18, 2013 11:17:50 GMT -5
I often wonder how Meeko expects mafia games to go. They seem to spend more time complaining about others' play and the set up then actually playing the game. On another note, I didn't see any fake PMs provided over on the Scum boards-- Did stanislaus write that himself? Right up until the mistake on the last line, it looks like he did a pretty good job of mimicking Storyteller's style. Did they copy it from a previous game? Anyway, that brings up a little peeve of mine. Too often, mafia game designers fail to include a means for scum to generate plausible false claims. If there's a large number of vanilla townies and scum have the vanilla PM, then it's not a problem. But if a game is mostly power roles, scum need to have fake PMs pregenerated for them, or some other way to claim and not get insta-lynched. |
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Post by chronos on Feb 19, 2013 20:47:55 GMT -5
And now, in response to a vote for lurking, orthohedron posts this:
Yes, exactly, that's why Diggit is voting for you, because you're not pointing fingers and you're being quiet.
Is this his first Mafia game?
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Post by Pleonast on Feb 20, 2013 16:16:39 GMT -5
It is their first game and it shows. I hope they figure things out and play again after they get lynched ToDay or ToMorrow.
Also the first for Johnny.
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Post by Frank on Feb 21, 2013 8:49:02 GMT -5
I'm calling it right here - I think Johnny is a secret returning player, like when Roosh pretended to be "SBrown" in Arkham 2. If he's not, then he's a Mafia natural.
Meanwhile, can we take a moment to notice that with five days left in Day Four, with multi-voting out the wazoo, there is not a single vote on a single Scum player?
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Post by Pleonast on Feb 22, 2013 11:37:43 GMT -5
Astral is dumb to push for a PM claim from a mason because they're worried about a scum mason. And then it was a bad idea to actually do that. The outed mason should simply say "my PM says all masons are 100% town". Meanwhile, can we take a moment to notice that with five days left in Day Four, with multi-voting out the wazoo, there is not a single vote on a single Scum player? That might come back to bite scum later in the game. Scum should vote for some of their teammates.
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Post by chronos on Feb 22, 2013 23:19:00 GMT -5
From Astral Rejection:
Some of us have differing opinions on just how good that times was.
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Post by chronos on Feb 26, 2013 20:55:45 GMT -5
Woo! A Scum confession! That's not something you see every day, especially not based on so little. Yeah, that was a nice piece of analysis Diggit did right before, but it's hardly like Cookies was already getting her neck measured. |
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Post by mhaye on Feb 28, 2013 13:15:58 GMT -5
That's been an interesting last few hours.
I can see why DarkCookies claimed; the N1 message needed to be reinforced, IMO. it's a bit of a risk for Town to ally with the Mafia against the third party, but I can see why it might happen.
Then the claim by SP and the forced claim from USCDiver.
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Post by Pleonast on Mar 1, 2013 11:50:50 GMT -5
When a game has multiple factions which are definitely opposed to each other, alliances of convenience should happen. If scum are smart, they'll block the serial killer again and really push their lynch.
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Post by chronos on Mar 2, 2013 1:42:24 GMT -5
Eh, it remains to be seen whether wombat99 (now acting as the backup Vig) chooses to kill Wolf Cookies or SK Dizzy toNight (if she doesn't kill either, then she deserves to be smacked). Killing the SK would be better for Town, but the Wolf is more certain from a non-spoiled viewpoint, so one could make a case for either. And even without a second block, Town might still lynch Dizzy toMorrow, and besides which, as long as she doesn't actually win, the SK's kills probably benefit Scum. So I'd think that it'd be wiser for the Wolves to just wait and see for the moment.
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Post by diggitcamara on Mar 2, 2013 21:26:41 GMT -5
The way I see it, wombat pretty much set him/herself up for a lynch toDay. Like someone said in this thread, (s)he did a very bad job in choosing Pleonast as the one to back up.
I even congratulated him in-thread for getting himself suicided by wolf and... well, no use crying over spilled milk.
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